Teresa

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| | 10/12/11 at 09:58 PM | Reply with quote | #1 |
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Okay guys, I realize each of you want to state your story here. I'll be happy to allow it as soon as I hear the "other side" of the story. I'm giving the person in question the chance to defend herself before "freeing up" the post. Please be patient with me as I don't want anyone unjustly accused. We knew Angie Fish and Dreamquest had their issues, but I'm waiting to hear from the "alleged" person before I allow the post to go up about her. I'm NOT trying to stifle the truth, I PROMISE! __________________ Align yourself with those with kind hearts, gentle spirits and honest intentions. Be a good friend and let good friends know how much they are valued! Live every day with the intention of doing what is right... |
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Teresa

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| | 10/14/11 at 06:28 PM | Reply with quote | #2 |
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The clock is ticking... __________________ Align yourself with those with kind hearts, gentle spirits and honest intentions. Be a good friend and let good friends know how much they are valued! Live every day with the intention of doing what is right... |
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| | 10/15/11 at 12:07 PM | Reply with quote | #3 |
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I've given the owner a chance to tell her story. Unfortunately, it was a rather incomplete answer. The Mastiff Community did not give Angie Fish/Heska Mastiffs or Dreamquest Mastiffs a "pass" for this, so this breeder will not be handled any differently. The facts that I have gotten to this point are this: 1.) Two litters have come and gone with several people NOT receiving a puppy or the return of their deposit for a puppy. During this time, the breeder has bred two litters and has campaigned her own bitch with a handler instead of repaying the deposits. Several of the buyers are resorting to contacting the attorney general of her state to file criminal charges. Puppy buyers and a stud dog owner has reported that the "checks" have bounced when she attempted to send money. So, in addition to not returning deposits or fees, she's written hot checks. 2.) One stud dog owner reported the stud dog fee has not been paid from three years ago and yes, a check for one of the "partial payments" bounced. They are waiting to see if the latest "payment" bounces or not. They have been trying to collect for three years.
It is time to stop these things from happening. I am giving the breeder a couple of more days to try to handle these matters, but I personally feel that this hurts our breed VERY badly when we stand idly by and allow breeders to continue with such practices. Those of you that KNOW who I am talking about need to reach out and persuade her to take care of this NOW. Over three years is TOO LONG to make people wait for their money. Reputable breeders dealing with her NEED to get involved and let her know this is not appropriate and reflects on them as well for dealing with someone like this. The Breeder is a Michigan Breeder, so anyone buying in that area, please feel free to contact me for further information.
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dirtpoor

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| | 10/15/11 at 06:13 PM | Reply with quote | #4 |
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You did the right thing. If people had spoken up sooner about what happened in Anderson County, maybe more of those Mastiffs would have survived. __________________ Kristie in Texas
Proud mom of Daisy who lives in Heaven with God and my daddy, and Gunnar who is still here with me to keep me safe and be my best friend |
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| | 10/16/11 at 11:31 AM | Reply with quote | #5 |
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Times up. Anyone with a non-refunded deposit from Tara Smith of Fawn River Mastiffs should immediately contact the attorney general in Michigan. They've already been made aware from other puppy buyers not recieving their refunds. Breeder has also gone under Legacy Mastiffs kennel name. __________________ Align yourself with those with kind hearts, gentle spirits and honest intentions. Be a good friend and let good friends know how much they are valued! Live every day with the intention of doing what is right... |
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EyotaMastiffs

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| | 10/19/11 at 07:13 AM | Reply with quote | #6 |
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Complaint ID#: 37031309 Business Name: Fawn River Mastiffs
The Better Business Bureau has made several attempts to contact the business regarding the above referenced complaint. We regret to inform you that we have not received a response from the company.
The Better Business Bureau develops and maintains Reliability Reports on companies in our service area. This information is available to the public and is frequently used by potential customers. In the case of your complaint, the company's failure to promptly give attention to the matter will be reflected in the report we give to consumers about them.
If the company has contacted you in the interim, please notify the BBB immediately at the address or e-mail provided below. DO NOT RESPOND DIRECTLY TO THIS E-MAIL, AS IT WILL NOT BE RECEIVED BY THE BBB.
Sincerely,
Melissa Brewer Trade Practice Assistant BBB Complaint Department bbbtpa@iserv.net BBB of Western Michigan 40 Pearl Street, NW, Suite 354 Grand Rapids, MI 49503
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dirtpoor

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| | 10/19/11 at 11:45 AM | Reply with quote | #7 |
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SWEET!!!!! __________________ Kristie in Texas
Proud mom of Daisy who lives in Heaven with God and my daddy, and Gunnar who is still here with me to keep me safe and be my best friend |
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MammothMastiffs

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| | 10/19/11 at 12:10 PM | Reply with quote | #8 |
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I wish them all the best in getting there money back, and hopefully, this person needs a little reflection time in jail... __________________ To whom it may concern:
There has never been a dog bred by, or sold by, Mill Creek Mastiffs or Mammoth Mastiffs, that tested positive for cystinuria to my knowledge. If anyone knows of one contact me asap...
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dirtpoor

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| | 10/19/11 at 08:00 PM | Reply with quote | #9 |
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I agree! The victims deserve their money back and she needs to be accountible for what she has done. __________________ Kristie in Texas
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EyotaMastiffs

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| | 10/20/11 at 06:47 AM | Reply with quote | #10 |
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I'm not holding my breath. If my calculations are right, she owes close to $5,000 in deposits and the stud fee. And those are just the people I know of. I'm assuming there may be more who I haven't yet found. __________________ Tammy Kinkade
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dirtpoor

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| | 10/20/11 at 10:20 AM | Reply with quote | #11 |
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Holy cow! __________________ Kristie in Texas
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Teresa

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| | 10/20/11 at 07:55 PM | Reply with quote | #12 |
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I just find it hard to fathom how someone justifies that...and then to send their dog out with a handler as a special owing so many people...seriously, I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND. __________________ Align yourself with those with kind hearts, gentle spirits and honest intentions. Be a good friend and let good friends know how much they are valued! Live every day with the intention of doing what is right... |
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dirtpoor

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| | 10/22/11 at 06:52 PM | Reply with quote | #13 |
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Im kind of surprised she hasn't blown up the boards in defense of herself, right or wrong. __________________ Kristie in Texas
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EyotaMastiffs

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| | 10/23/11 at 10:29 AM | Reply with quote | #14 |
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My guess is there's just no response when you get caught in years worth of lies... __________________ Tammy Kinkade
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Teresa

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| | 10/23/11 at 01:52 PM | Reply with quote | #15 |
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Unfortunately, since some of her "supporters" have big names within the breed, she may think she's protected. What she doesn't understand is that those people will jump ship as soon as possible when it starts reflecting on them. The next step I will be taking is to put the warning up on Facebook. I assure you that reputable breeders will NOT want their names associated with scams. __________________ Align yourself with those with kind hearts, gentle spirits and honest intentions. Be a good friend and let good friends know how much they are valued! Live every day with the intention of doing what is right... |
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